tag : bright yellow-green apples: winners and winners

"I see little point in persisting in a discussion with one so obstinate as you" Martin White

Wednesday, December 07, 2005

winners and winners

figure 79.7. the legacy of the handbag

Yesterday saw Simon Starling win the Turner Prize, as someone who apparently represents ’research-based’ art. It’s interesting as summit close to a museum piece or community project, or perhaps a requisite headline grabber (for shedboat), but Jim Lambie’s instillation pressed all my art buttons. It’s a bit crazy, very attractive, and has some rather searing motifs that bear relation to everyday town life.

And today it was the turn of David Cameron to win the Conservative leadership contest. Kudos to him for racing from outranker to favourite, but I’m really not very keen. True I’m instinctively opposed to seeing the Tories in power, but they could at least have chosen someone who’d get them back into meaningful engagement. Instead there’s tons of empty rhetoric and hot air about change change change, with little to offer us but summit akin to the New Labour Project with a blue skin.


Blogger Martin said...

First paragraph - never can guess with you, can we? I thought shedboatshed was a worthy winner, and though you probably would and all. Instead you go for the one that makes me feel a bit sick, calling it 'very attractive'.

Second paragraph - oh, you're SO predictable.

10:19 AM  
Blogger postliberal said...

I'm sure there's some reassurence in that, for you ;P But feel free to show where you diverge from my own perspective!

Don't get me wrong, I find a lot of stimulation in shedboatshed, and the bike for that matter. It's just that I happen to enjoy the big plastic birds more. It's very sensual and materialistic - in a good way, redeeming showyness as summit beautiful and striking.

11:45 PM  
Blogger ken said...

I haven't paid any attention to the actual content of the Turner nominees this, so won't comment on that. At least it's better than the media-frenzied "this isn't art" winners of before. But the media-frenzy will have to continue if Cameron's Cons are to have a chance of governing Britain as populist politics and presentable, agreeable, normality are key in politics today. So, sorry Laurence, it's downhill from here, without much more than a second of focus group or think tank time devoted to politicising the younger voters. But take heart as this will be something to watch: even Phill's scared of Cameron...

Take care.
love K3n.

1:14 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

How reassuring, hum hum.

Oh there was enough tabloid fodder to keep things vaguely hyped up on Turner Prize schannigins – I’m thinking particularly of the bum paintings. A lot of the media coverage, much as it might be deliberately stoked by the choice of shortlists, is very annoying. Some really very good art, such as The Lights Going On and Off, gets buried under a welter of hyperbole and vociferous accusation.

Some of the first couple of days have been most encouraging, as regards the Conservatives. True they’ve decided to carry on being silly about the EU, but there’s a fair bit of talk, at least, about matters of social justice and the environment. At least it can’t be any worse that previous policies of the last 20 or so years!

1:27 PM  
Blogger Martin said...

I'm just going to note that you suddenly held Malcolm Rifkind in high esteem immediately after he dropped out of the leadership race, and that you have saved your dismissal of Cameron until he has been elected, rather than passing comment during the election itself.

Dare I suggest that actually your comments on Conservatives MPs are guided by your philosophy that 'the Tory party are great ninnies' (shall I be telling my dad that then?) and therefore not really worth paying any attention to?

7:11 PM  
Blogger Martin said...

That needed an 'are' to make sense. But it's still very interesting that you find praise for a Tory at the moment he definitely won't be leader, yet only unleash you criticise of Cameron at the point where he is...

9:33 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

You can suggest what you like, whatever the reality. Hactually, my first post of the contest was coming for a while, and procrastination was cut off by his announcement. It was now or never to say he was half decent, in a 'one nation' sense.

I then, as you can see by my posting around the time, chose not to talk about the contest for the next few weeks. For sanity's sake, after saying a little about each guy. It seemed fair enough to make a comment about the winner, once they'd won. What's your problem? ;P

But yes, I do have a low regard of that party. Which I certainly hold unashamedly.

1:54 AM  
Blogger Martin said...

Good. Will you be coming over to tell my dad that he's a great ninny then?

12:08 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

Oh no, I wouldn't be so rude as to tell people to their face! Plus it would imply his whole indentity is no more than a politic. I might perhaps say summit like "I find other political approaches more amenible".

12:20 PM  
Blogger Martin said...

I can do it for you if you like?

It really isn't like you to be so generalistic and hyperbolic, you know :-p

12:35 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

Tell him what you think best, if you wish. I'm sure he'll be impeccably polite, just like your family is when I'm there.

11:27 PM  
Blogger Martin said...

Okay, I told him!

1:46 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

hehe so what did he say, if anything?

3:12 PM  
Blogger Martin said...

More or less that you're so obviously prejudiced that your opinions aren't worth taking into account :-p

7:53 PM  

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