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"I see little point in persisting in a discussion with one so obstinate as you" Martin White

Saturday, June 25, 2005

must try harder

figure 34.1.let's walk at the speed of sound

It's a year since I started this site, as you can see. Feel free to light some candles or have some cake, then tell me off for not keeping to the aims I set at the begginging!

For any musos out there, there's a fun piece in todays' Guardian Friday review, about songwriting. It's marvelously bitty, and has a good go at various bands. The satisfaction is spoilt only rarely, such as when Radiohead are dissed - cos, as anyone who knows me even loosely will soon find, I think they're utterly fabulous.


Blogger Martin said...

Well, it's touching that a man who called a song 'The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul' feels that he can lecture us all about the use of words.

The article itself seems a bit confused about whether it wants storytelling narrators (hence the praise for The Streets) or intelligent but slightly riddled poets who write like Sylvia Plath.

And 'Morning Bell' is so clearly about divorce and the breakdown of marriage (cut the kids in half? the clothes are on the lawn with the furniture?) that you'd have to be a total moron not to notice.

That is all.

10:26 AM  
Blogger postliberal said...

In that case I'm a moron - thanks for pointing out the possibley obvious! I just thought it was a general existential crisis.

It's confused but the main thing that caught my eye was that it was quite amusing - especially the cover page (in the paper copy) that mocked the ease of writing "Speed of Sound" or whatever it's called.

11:14 AM  
Blogger ash said...

Now Laurence, I thought you of all people would appreciate lyrical works that move away from the coherant and dip into the nonsensical. Personally, that's rather how I prefer my music and the poetry I read (though not, perhaps, that which i write).

If something's meaning is illusive, that's all well and good, but if there is significant reason to debate it ever had one, so much the better.

We have a marvellous language... why use it purely for the realist?

2:12 PM  
Blogger Martin said...


1) Cut the kids in half
2) The clothes are on the lawn with the furniture

I think perhaps you've proved their point!

I have to say, I have no trouble seeing why people relate to Coldplay songs, particularly something like 'The Scientist', which has some excellent lyrics. I await a polemic response about their 'ouvre (sic.)'

12:00 AM  
Blogger postliberal said...

Ash -

I have no personal issue with nonesence words, or elusively unplacable lyrics. But that article did touch a nerve for me, and that's vapidly empty generalness in songs. Scarily, I find generalised streak in many of my poems, hense it struck me even more...

The nonsensical and the confusing is often the most stimulating of all - if there's depth enough to take you somewhere new. If all you're singing about is "you've got to move forward to get somewhere" then there's going to be a certain level of dissatisfaction going on.

12:57 AM  
Blogger postliberal said...

Martin -

Perhaps I'm not the best placed to comment here, being more likely to hear the music than listen to the lyrics for the first 20 listens or so of most albums!

You know what I think of Coldpaly by now, that they sound fairly nice but pretty souless. Is that polemically general enough? Of course there are exceptions, hehe...

1:05 AM  
Blogger Martin said...

Well, yes, but it's just curious that a lot of people disagree with you.

I still find it amazing that an article can criticise a lack of coherence and then praise something for being like Sylvia Plath (whose poetry I think is, for the most part, excellent, but I couldn't say I understood it right off the cuff)

12:33 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

There are a hack of a lot of people who enjoy them. I just happen not to be one of them - on the whole (they do have nice melodies).

It's a fairly rambly and occasionally mixed article. But I think the central plank is not so much an attack on incoherence in itself as empty & meaningless incoherence!

11:30 PM  
Blogger mary said...

happy birthday, dear bright yellow-green apples...long may the campaign of wittily titled pictures, general big words, guardian readership and laurenceness continue. hurray :D

3:51 PM  
Blogger Martin said...

I really meant, how do you account for so many people finding soul in soulless music?

7:09 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

Martin -

Now that's an interesting question. Perhaps I tend to lean towards the view that, despite my strong opinions, music isn't intrinsically soul-full or soul-less. One person's James Brown is another's Kasabien - or Phats & Small for that matter!

Mary -

Thanks for the good wishes, and so. It'll certainly continue for some time - though perhaps in a different form of some sort, if I get very mainstream finally sorted out.

12:19 AM  

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