tag : bright yellow-green apples: look over there

"I see little point in persisting in a discussion with one so obstinate as you" Martin White

Saturday, January 15, 2005

look over there


figure 1.9 par example

I’ve had a lot of respect for Chris Ofili ever since I heard of him a few years back, on winning the Turner Prize – the judges seem to have a knack for selecting great shortlists. As well as painting intricately beautiful patterns, irreverent religious scenes (a last supper with monkeys), and using earthy materials (like elephant poo), he’s now turned his hand to promoting artistic co-support by touring the country looking for genre defying good ‘black music’.

Anyway, there’s a quote from the article concerned that caught my eye: "I've always found music inspired me in the studio to try to do new things. If someone comes out with a new album it's like: gosh, they've been working hard - so should I." This strikes me as quite pertinent, as it chimes with my own experience. I’ve tended to produce my best, and most original, images when creating to a really exciting soundtrack. Music that plays with conventions, or tries to stretch the listener might not be aural wallpaper, but it certainly gets my artistic side going. For example, I often find Martin's music gets me in a right mood to come up with summit new.

So what’s the moral of the story today? Any of you creative tykes out there – go find other creators who use different media to yourself (from dance to music to paint to drama to poetry) and see what they bring out in you. It can be revelatory.


Blogger ash said...

yes, i've noticed this too actually. My more recent poems have come to being, or even been directly inspired, by a particular peice of music. one also was inspired by a photograph of a sunset with a tree sillhouette I have as my desktop wallpaper.

even the poetic works of others can kindle up the artistic flames.

one interesting thing that happened this year was my unceremonious return to the visual media... which, while i don't consider it a strength of mine, is something which enabled me to begin to think creatively about thinking creatively.

I have always considered woodwork as artwork, and this year began to see lighting design in the same way... yes. yes yes, it's amazing where inspiration can come from.

2:26 PM  
Blogger Martin said...

wow, it's nice of you to say so. particularly when i'm trying to work out what 'appeal by way of case stated' means, which is JUST ABOUT THE MOST FRUSTRATING THING I COULD BE DOING.

i of course agree with what you say, although i think for me it is often the film media and other musicians (especially those i know) who tend to bring out this kind of ethic in me

2:48 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

Oh yeah, inspiration can come through many various means. I suppose my emphasis on media different to what you practice comes out of what I tend to find…that, personally, my visual art and poetry can get easily stagnated. It takes a constant exposure to what other people are creating to bring me out of myself and venture into coming up with new ideas, even more so with media that I don’t myself foray into.

Thanks both of ye, it’s always intresting to hear other perspectives...

12:00 AM  
Blogger Sarah said...

maybe it depends what kind of art you are doing, or maybe its that i have been conditioned to work without music/ listening to music i hate because of my education (that stems from either not being allowed the stereo on, or having some hideous ear jarring rubbish on to keep the karioke skallies happy. headphones are never allowed for obvious reasons), that i don't really listen to music whilst i am working. still, if im working in my room ill put music on if i remember.

So I'm not sure what i respond to. generally ideas, or forms, or natural progressions from a previous study. or from curious inclination!

8:36 AM  
Blogger ash said...

ah yes, now curiosity is a big thing... many of my poems were born out of "hmmm... I wanna try THAT!"

In tech we normally had the radio on... at least after year 11. yeah, it helped.

5:23 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

My own conditioning at school (it seems so long ago now!) was either total silence or really rubbish music - aside from the slides of 'past masters', this was the limit of my alternative stimulation. This is partly why I've had occasional flirtations with the idea of being an art teacher recently - often they have such limited ideas about how to feed the creative process, and I reckon there's untapped potential in it.

It was later personal explorations and experiments that taught me some of the value of eaking out great music, film, stories, poetry, that can spark an idea.

12:53 AM  
Blogger ash said...

film is an interesting one... I have found great inspiration in film, three whcih spring to mind are Dead Poets' Society, Donny Darko andCity of Angels all of which were reccommendations.

7:34 PM  
Blogger Brasil66 said...

uh huh...what is being said here? we listen to music and...? it is an end in itself. don't insult the musician that created and handed over to you his work by feebly announcing that it somehow had a role to play in your own creation. " yes, my piece inspired by Mozart is ethereal and brilliant, while this dead bit of string is my AC/DC moment..." come now, get off it...that's not where it comes from.

5:13 AM  
Blogger Martin said...


as the musician mentioned, I certainly don't feel that this is what Laurence is saying... I think the point is one about inter-relationships between different forms of art, I don't think that lessens the importance of each one

4:36 PM  
Blogger ash said...

indeed... it strengthens the value of each peice IMO. that what I do may inspire others is more inspiring.

7:14 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

Just in case people are interested, Brasil66 coincidentally also came up with some thoughts on music recently - read them here.

People who create can’t afford to be too precious about what they come up with - once it enters the public spaces, it becomes in sense a free spirit. It’s material that’s shared by all who come into experiencing it. At it’s mildest, this comes through influence and inspiration, at it’s more extreme it’s seen in sampling and collages. I know full well that once I make something, it’s vulnerable to the whims and mores of others around me - from interpretation to use to value. This vulnerability is not something to be scorned, it’s intrinsic to any art which is not kept in one’s personal vaults.

And anyway, this is not about claiming a motive for producing art as to supply others with inspiration - it's more a natural outworking.

12:05 AM  
Blogger Martin said...

Yes, I certainly would say that we all promote our forms of art with the intention that people will be moved by it in some way or other.

As for dismissing whole genres, well, you know me, I have enough trouble with people typecasting Alicia Keys...

12:47 PM  

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