tag : bright yellow-green apples: flesh and bone outgrow rationality

"I see little point in persisting in a discussion with one so obstinate as you" Martin White

Friday, December 24, 2004

flesh and bone outgrow rationality



figure 3.4. it's the mystery, stupid

It’s nearly that day again. And since there’s lots of comment on the virgin birth (here and here), I thought I’d give a final few small musings on the meanings of advent, the close anticipation of the coming of Emmanuel.

In Mary we have a sign and vision of the Church, in all ages and now. At it's best, it's a carrier of Christ, bearing him into the world. The still hidden light within Mary is part of her prayer in the world, and it should it be ours too - it was prayer that brought the paradigm-shifting fertility to a barren situation in the stories of individuals (from Sarah to Elizabeth) and communities (the Israeli society). God is there in the spirit, the helper, organically part of our very being, in the dynamic relationship of the divine trinity, in our core as people trying to live love. Let's try to consider just how cataclysmic even a small event like a birth can be, as we deliver the pregnant God-in-human amongst our people through enacting the kingdom of God.

4 Comments:

Blogger andy goodliff said...

There's some terrible spelling - was it written in a rush? I like the post, Mary and the church as a carrier of Christ to the world - nice. Although I got lost in trying to work out what "God is there in the spirit, the helper, organically part of our very being, in the dynamic relationship of the divine trinity, in our core as people trying to live love" means. Can you explain further?

12:19 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

hehe, it was written sometime around midnight, as you could tell - at least I've gone back and corrected the slightly messy spelling!

As for the actual content, I was deliberately trying to make it dense and slightly picky to get into for some reason (I suppose it’s probably a bit of an overreaction against logical philosophy!) I suppose what I was trying to say there was that the image presents some kind of archetype for how Christ is there in the being of people, through the holy spirit’s action, bringing about a divinely-inspired loving way of relating with our world and with God. Without wishing to sound crude, in some way the physical presence of Emmanuel in someone is a sign of how we might see Christ in those around us. Or something.

2:55 PM  
Blogger ash said...

oh come now! I wasn't THAT logical... :oP ahem, yes you make some good points.
please bear in mind that I am not so much refuting that the virgin birth is true, but am A) trying to see why it matters b) trying to say that people who can't make a reasoned argument shouldn't bother trying, c) question the reading that it is literal, and d) I am merely questioning, not giving answers.....

10:55 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

Rather like yourself, I'm trying to develop an appreciation of what 'true' means...where the various narratives (ours and those we inherited & tell together) meet.

1:25 AM  

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