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"I see little point in persisting in a discussion with one so obstinate as you" Martin White

Thursday, November 18, 2004

new old

figure 7.8. thems fightin' words

Two recent takes on primal mythology have caught my attention of late. The first is The Lyre of Orpheus from the new album by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - thanks for the intro, Martin. It’s wildly brash and fun, ambiguously wry, with a wanton rawness that some of the best tellings have. The second is a story by Ken which intrigues me a lot; it’s a tale of the unknown and the known in inevitable dance, and their dealings with us as embodied onlookers:

And so they came to be at the ford of the Jabbok river. At this point it was growing late at night and they needed somewhere to camp. Belief sent ahead the family, Faith, Practice and Ritual along with some other attendees to make the site.

But Belief waited by the ford. It was a dark night. Down came Unbelief and wrestled with Belief. The holds, the strength of both combatants stretched the boundaries of life in their struggle.

It went on. Thrashing and splashing in the ford, they fought. It became difficult to tell which parts where belonging to whom in the earthy, raw, struggle that raged between the two counterparts in the ford.

Eventually, Unbelief saw that Belief's grip was not going to let go, so he pointed out some irrationality in the structures at the centre of Belief. But Belief, though cheated would not let go easily. Turning to look into the eyes of his adversary, these words came from Belief's mouth: "I will not let go until you have blessed me." Thus Unbelief acceded to this demand and blessed Belief saying: "You were. You know will be known as 'Struggles with God'."


Blogger ash said...

ooooh now this is clever and intriguing... it is more than probably that my initial reaction will change once i have stewed some of this over, but i must say i find the bit the blessing particularly fascinating. it reminds me, in small part, of the project of Thomlinson's The Post-Evangelical... that idea that he has of noting the value of evangelicalism even if one is to move on. it is that "no regrets" "whatever don't kill you only makes you stronger" thing which is rather nice to look upon whether practical or not (and i don't doubt there is some truth in it). good good.

8:55 PM  
Blogger Martin said...

That song by Nick Cave is glorious. Ken's story is a bit befuddling, but I'm sure I'll get it soon...

10:15 PM  
Blogger postliberal said...

Make sure y'all share your thoughts with ken, I'm sure he'd appreciate any feedback given that he came up with the piece. And if you manage to get hold of Nick, let me know how I can contact him too ;)

Oh and if any of you British readers want to hear a sample of this latest album, the Guardian are doing a free 'new music' compilation CD in next Saturday's paper - with one of thier tracks on it.

1:56 AM  

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